axelrod and david plouffe, the other one on the campaign, they actually didn't have the same story yesterday. the question that remains for america and this is not a partisan question. it's at what point did the director of national intelligence know that what the white house was saying was wrong? why did they let the u.n. ambassador, susan rice, go on five sunday shows and repeat falsehoods and take three more days to finally say it right and still they want to say that they didn't get anything wrong. >> gretchen: you're supposing that susan rice was told to say that. >> i would hope not. i find had -- i do find it hard to believe she would have gone out and said something false if she knew it. >> steve: she said the same thing over and over. it looked rehearsed. >> i just don't believe she would have said something that was not true. i find that hard to believe. >> eric: we talk a lot about what had been going on for the 2 1/2 weeks since the obama administration finally said it was a preplanned terrorist attack. we were wondering who was going to tate fall. james clapper, director of nati